In urban/contemporary fantasy, it is common to have the magical people/creatures be in hiding. There is nothing inherently wrong with that, as longs as it is done well. There are ways to do this well and ways to do this poorly, and if it plays a large role in your story, there should be a good reason to have it.
Humans used to know but have forgotten about it. People don’t forget about things that major. Society isn’t going to forget that there are large groups of people that have magic or can transform into strange creatures. Think about now: there are still stories about werewolves and vampires and many other supernatural creatures. If these were real, inevitably there would be undeniable proof that would keep people from forgetting.
It would be bad for the supernatural people to reveal themselves. This isn’t a bad reason by definition. The problem is more that it is often done poorly or not explained well. For one thing, see above. Why didn’t people know about them before or why didn’t they reveal themselves in a time when it would be accepted? What was the reason for hiding in the beginning that made whatever they had to sacrifice to stay hidden so much better than revealing themselves to start with?
All evidence was erased magically during/after a bad time in their history. By “bad time”, I mean something akin to a witch hunt, or some other reason that there would be a concerted effort to hide the existence of this entire society/culture/species. This is also only possible if the type of magic that the people had allowed for them to erase this from all records. Those “records” probably include people, which would probably mean that the people who knew who weren’t involved either had their memories wiped or were killed.
They are stronger when people don’t know about them. One reason for this could be that there are rituals done by the people with magic that people without magic would object to. Human sacrifices (or even animal sacrifices) are a clear example of this. In general, people get touchy about things like that and would probably stop it. Similarly, in the case of something that feeds off of non-magic people, such as a vampire, if people knew, they would probably fight back and hunt the vampires.
Nobody wants to press the button. If it was tradition for a long time to keep the secret—because, for instance, of a witch hunt in the past—there will be a lot of pressure, especially from the older conservative members of the group, to continue the tradition. Also, nobody will want to be the person to ultimately be responsible for this, because if it goes badly, they will be blamed and castigated for it.
Magic is illegal. This, of course, means that people know about magic, but the people actually with magic would be underground, hiding their magic or even hiding that they exist, period. Having people hide their magic when people know about magic only works if the magically people look or have the ability to look the same as people without magic. If all magical people have green skin or horns or fangs, it will be really difficult for them to hide. But if they look like non-magical people or at least have the ability to look like those people, it is possible. That being said, there needs to be a reason for magic to be illegal beyond just a generic “oh no bad”.
There are a number of different reasons that can be used for why magic is hidden. Not all of them work as well as others, and the reason you use must fit within your story as well as being well explained and rationalized. It is pointless to have something like this if you make up a random reason—or don’t make up any reason at all. Then it is just a plot hole, and it will make your story worse.
[Just back from the movie and all I can say is
Well, new bible interpretation- Lucifer was yandere for God.]
You are a year older than you were before, and you’ve learned a lot in that year. A year ago, you were struggling to stay here and continue writing, because you saw a large number of people who wanted to write something similar to you. But you know what?
You stuck it out. You swallowed your self-doubt and kept going. And here you are, one year later, bigger than ever, with friends that support you and a talent that keeps on evolving. You’ve got a lot to be proud of this birthday, and if you take nothing else from that experience, you remember in this new year that you are great, and even if someone wants to do something like you, they aren’t you, so don’t be bothered with that. Keep on fighting, and keep on shining.
Happy birthday, Zoey.]
My problem with people believing that they can write some magical happy ending to Umineko by just expediting one character, is that there’s not supposed to be a happy ending in the first place. The ending is bittersweet at most, but the fact remains that people died. An entire family was lost. More than that— If you can’t grasp the significance of the plot and just simplify it to “boohoo everything needs a happy ending”, then you really shouldn’t be reading Umineko in the first place.
You can’t just magically poof away Beatrice and everything’s all better; If Beatrice isn’t present, then Yasu isn’t present, and you might as well say goodbye to Shannon and Kanon too. They’re all linked, and you can’t just be selective in “Oh, I only want [this character] and [this character] to disappear!”
Yeah, it’ll prevent the Rokkenjima Incident from occurring, but what beyond that? Eliminating the Incident doesn’t magically fix all foreseeable problems and issues for the Ushiromiya family… and as said so many times, trying to fabricate some simple, happy solution only means that you’re too lazy to think. Figuring out Beato’s riddles and purpose is part of the fun— and the point— of the whole damn series.
Or, you know, you could reduce it all to “blonde princess not getting her pony waaaaah” and make yourself look like a total dumbass who lacks basic empathy and understanding. Your call.
(ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ friendly reminder that i am a human being and just because reply to other people’s threads more does not mean i like you any less — muses are precarious things and sometimes the response to your thread just won’t come, and i don’t want to give you something forced (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ
[Well, red eyes aren’t necessarily associated with all of the demons! If you look at a majority of the demons- all of the 72 Great Demons, actually, you see that none of them have red eyes! The only ones that have red eyes are the Stakes of Purgatory, who are lower ranked demons. Higher ranked Angels don’t have red eyes, either!
I honestly think the it’s only the lower ranked Furniture that have red eyes, to symbolize their inhumanity. Lower ranked Furniture are the ones most often summoned by humans, so it’s understandable why the red eyes=monster association was easily made. So if they rank-up, their eye color would change, probably.]
Golly I really wanna RP with the new Erika, but Bern said she already locked away the Fragments and Erika might get rekt for messing with them;;
[Erika might get wrecked for messing with them, for sure. Messing with them, that is.
But if Rika is curious about meeting one of Bern’s Pieces, it’s not like Bern is going to say no. She trusts Rika enough to take care of herself, but it’s only when Rika is truly threatened will Bern come in and start wrecking shit.]
good job Bern ten out of ten you got it right well done the great witch Featherine Something Auaurora certainly is pleased with you getting her name correct
[copperknickershelix once again strikes again with excellent ideas!
How does a secret santa sound, guys?]
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[Good question! Shikei and I have discussed this extensively in the past, actually.
SSVD and Eiserne Jungfrau are the ‘Repentance Agencies’ in Heaven, that carry out executions and run trials. Dlanor’s title is ‘Archbishop’, which according to traditional hierarchy is about…7/10? However, Will and the original Ronald were implied to have outranked her, so they’d be at least a standing above.
Taking that into consideration, as well as the description of what each rank does, they’re probably both Powers? The Powers work closely with the Principalities, and are ‘bearers of the conscience’, which seems kind of similar to their job description.
The only other option would be the Thrones, and based on how Will and Dlanor act, I think that’s a little too high of a rank for them. Idk.]
THE NINE CHOIRS OF HEAVEN. An info-graphic for my editorial class and god am I thankful it’s done. Way too much went into this than what I had time for, but hey… I actually kind of like it?
Now excuse me, I must return to my fashion major lifestyle and go sew a coat u_u
EDIT: Re-uploaded with easier viewing!
Frederica Bernkastel, giving dangerous weaponry to children she dotes on since 1983.
catboxofmiracles replied to your post: not to mention the fact she’s probably going to be…[Senpai Bern will teach Maria all about the higher-ranked Witch world ^v^]
forgive the shitty trackpad art but
is it weird i can imagine these two getting along??
>Maria, you don’t set them on fire, that’s very undignified and unclassy.
>Here is a canister of chlorine trifluoride, chemical warfare is far more refined.
[When Beatrice first suggested Maria becoming the Witch of Origins, she hadn’t met Bern and Featherine, and was probably unaware of the immense evils that also come with the rank. So yeah, everyone’s fears of Maria becoming a full-fledged Creator is probably warranted, namely because their awareness of how Creators actually act as opposed to the saccharine hypothetical.
And then naturally, as everyone is freaking out there is Bern on the sidelines, slowclapping for the lulz and going YEAH, DO IT.]
[Also an additional note- Beatrice probably thought highly of Witches in general for a very long time, namely because Witchdom was an escape for her and the first high-ranked Witch she met was Lambdadelta, who did sign off on her. Even if Beatrice is intimidated by Lambda, the latter is still on her side, and as we the audience see as the Golden Game progresses, Lambda proves to be just that- Beato and Battler’s ally.
On the other hand, she had probably only heard of Bern not in person, but through the biased perspective of Lambda- who as we know, acknowledges Bern’s faults but dotes on her heavily at the surface level. They are in love, after all, and Bern doesn’t seem that bad the way Lambda describes her at first- until you actually meet her.
Beatrice was smart enough to know Bern was working against her, but it wasn’t until Episode 4 onwards that she really realized the true extent of Bern’s cruelty, and all of the terrible Witches she brings into the board, which probably disillusioned Beato quite a bit. Not to say she wasn’t disillusioned before, but from a fantasy perspective, it’s notable.]